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The 219th General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) — Election Of The Moderator

Congratulations to Ruling Elder Cynthia Bolbach and Teaching Elder Landon Whitsitt who were just elected the Moderator and Vice-Moderator respectively, of the 219th General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) .  (OK, technically Cynthia was elected Moderator and Landon will be brought up as the nominee for Vice-Moderator at the plenary later in the week but that is a formality.) They were elected on the fourth ballot with 325 votes.  As Ms. Bolbach said at one point in the Q and A — “Elders rule!”

Now, before I continue let me say that I was at a great family event among other Presbyterians this evening so I was not following much of the live streaming.  Comments on the election process are compiled from the plethora of individuals providing details on Twitter as the event progressed.  Also, you will probably want to check out the accounts from other blogs from people who were present.

Having said that let me comment on what I could follow of the election process.  For both the speeches and the Q and A session the Assembly suspended the standing rules and extended the time for each by 30 minutes because of the large number of candidates so they all had reasonable time to present themselves.

I did see some of the nominating speeches and have the accounts of the candidate speeches and they all seemed to be well delivered and touched on traditional topics.  And from the accounts multiple candidates sang parts of their speeches.

From the Twitter coverage the questions to the candidates all seemed like good ones.  They were: 1) Why is it important to have educated clergy? 2) How do both parts of the PC(USA) constitution relate to each other in decision making? 3) What is at stake in the church if you are not elected Moderator? 4) How would you address mission and evangelism? 5) How do you feel about youth involvement in the life of the church and GA? 6) What do you think about civil union and marriage?

As you can see in the table below the vote went to a fourth ballot.  After two ballots there was a motion to suspend the standing rules and change the procedure to drop the lowest vote-getter.  It would have required a 2/3’s vote and the motion failed.  In the Twitterverse Rock-paper-scissors or a penalty kick shootout were also suggested to speed things up.

 Votes 2 3  4
 Belle  71  60  73  51
 Bolbach  149  220  272  325
 Kim  57  52  44  25
 Lauterer  76  78  74  49
 Leeth  73  93  111  148
 Nielson  71  53  64  37
 Total  497  556  638  635


I am normally into reading tea leaves and trying to find something in these numbers.  However, I am reluctant to do that this evening for a couple of reasons.  The first is that from reading the candidates’ statements and from their answers this evening these are individuals who do not nicely fit the boxes we sometimes put them in.  Therefore, I am avoiding the usual descriptive terms and will say that I see certain affinities between Lauterer’s views and Bolbach’s views and would think that the drop Lauterer had on the last ballot went to Bolbach putting her over the top.  Similarly, there seemed to be an affinity between Nielson and Leeth and Leeth’s strengthening appears to be at Nielson’s expense.  Those two shifts don’t completely describe what is going on so there are other shifts as well.  I will say that with Kim’s name recognition in the denomination and his home-town advantage I was surprised that he was consistently last in the voting.

(Update: Jim Stochl, one of our presbytery commissioners and a friend of mine, posted his interesting observations about the election last night.  His take was that Jin Kim was too negative in his speech and answers and came across as too radical about how the PC(USA) needed to change.  Having heard Rev. Kim speak at the last GA that sounds like what he said then so he probably came across as not hopeful enough to many of the commissioners.  Thanks Jim.)

The other reason I’m hesitant to say much is because there may be bad data.  If you look at the total numbers of votes in each round you will see that round one and two are significantly lower than three and four.  There was a long interval between ballot two and ballot three as the tech staff checked the commissioners’ wireless voting devices, the commissioners voted in a few rounds of test or practice voting on whether they had dinner, and they trained the Moderator on how to call for the vote.  The consistency in the totals for the last two votes give me confidence that they got the system working.  We will see if these issues continue to be a problem when the Assembly returns to plenary session in a few days.  These problems led to a number of snarky Twitter comments which included such gems as “Lesson 1: Never do layoffs before a General Assembly” (originated with @revkirby I think) and “wireless voting at #ga219 #FAIL” (originated with @ajc123 as far as I can tell).

So, if you want to follow the new leadership on Twitter you can add @cbolbach and @landonw to your list.  (And people are lobbying hard to get Cyndie Bolbach to actually tweet — Landon Whitsitt will probably see to that himself.)  UPDATE: At the later news conference Cyndie Bolbach is quoted on Twitter by Leslie Scanlon (@lscanlon) of the Outlook as saying “I’m no @breyeschow or @bawade. But @landonw is.”

And thanks to Bruce and Byron for your faithful service over the past two years.  I don’t know if other past-Moderators worked as hard as you two did and we just did not know about it because we did not have blogs and Twitter.  But your on-line updates gave all of us a real appreciation for what goes into holding those offices and how much you do for the other 103 weeks of your term.  Thanks to both of you and God’s blessings as your live return to “normal.” (And Bruce, is your life ever anything like most people would consider normal?)  God Speed!

219th General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)

In just over 12 hours the 219th General Assembly (2010) of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) will convene in Minneapolis, Minnesota.  Here are resources to help you follow all the action.

This is shaping up to be a major Twitter event.   The major hashtag is #ga219 but the more light-hearted but less efficient hashtag #presbynerdfest10 is in play as well.  The official twitter users are led by the Moderator of the 218th GA Bruce Reyes-Chow at both @breyeschow and @brc_live.  In addition, the outgoing Vice-Moderator Byron Wade can be followed at @bawade.  There are official or semi-official twitter names for @yaads219, @ga219tracker, @gacola2010, @presbyGA, and @DirofOp (Director of Operations – Thomas Hay).  There is of course also the official main Twitter name @Presbyterian but I am not sure that will be used much for GA related tweets.

There are numerous other individuals and groups who will be tweeting, and those are probably best followed by the hashtag or the GA219 Twub.  (A twub is a means of consolidating and having a Twitter community.)  Also, I have previously listed the Twitter handles of Moderator and Vice-Moderator candidates and will add those of the successful candidate to the official list above upon the selection by the Assembly.  UPDATE: With the election of Cynthia Bolbach and Landon Whitsitt as Moderator and Vice-Moderator you can follow them on Twitter at @cbolbach and @landonw.

OK, now the unofficial blog coverage.  There is a lot of coverage out that and I am sure to miss someone but here is what I have right now.  I would start with two individuals who have put together a tremendous amount of information.  Robert Austell has put up a very comprehensive and complete site at GAhelp.net and is there at GA updating and tracking information.  Also, Bob Davis has put together a set of reviews of the business before the Assembly at Presbyblog.  Also, the news sites Presbyterian Outlook and The Layman will be posting their takes on the Assembly.  Each also has a blogger commenting on the action, Carmen Fowler for the Layman and Adam J. Copeland for the Outlook.  (And there is word that Toby Brown will also be blogging for the Layman.) For other coverage:

There are also individuals who will be blogging live and remotely.  I am in the latter group and will contributing my comments as my schedule permits.

So we have one week ahead of us of polity, parliamentary procedure, and discussion and debate.  There will be a live feed but I don’t see that link for that yet.  I’ll add that link in the list above when the GA starts.  So hang on and have fun.

New Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) Web Site

Well, as promised the new web site design for the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) has been rolled out late today just in time for the start of the General Assembly meeting beginning on Saturday.

My first impression is very positive.  It has interactive media on the front page, a nice clean feel at the top, and good navigation links.  It is a bit more cluttered at the bottom of the front page.  A little checking shows that the front page style is not propagated throughout the site — There is a new style that differs from the front for the GAMC, and the OGA pages still retain the same look and feel as they did yesterday.

As for URL’s there is a new system that seems logical as far as I have explored it.  Previously a web page was a subdirectory of the pcusa.org address.  Now it is a subdomain of the site.  For example, the General Assembly page was www.pcusa.org/ga219 and it is now ga219.pcusa.org and the OGA was www.pcusa.org/oga and it similarly is now oga.pcusa.org.  For simple cases like these two the old addresses forward.  However, more complicated cases do not follow this rule:  www.pcusa.org/research does forward, but not to research.pcusa.org but to gamc.pcusa.org/ministries/research.  And not everything forwards — a lot of my previous links are now broken.  For example, the documents I linked to earlier today are still generally valid links, although one is now broken, and the nice index page for comparative statistics is gone!  There is now a resource page that lists each table seperatly.  That may take some time to get through.  And one other inconsistancy — if you want to get to the current GA it is ga219.pcusa.org as I mentioned above.  All the previous GA’s are oga.pcusa.org/ga216 , or whatever GA you want.

The one other feature of the web site is the quick and easy access to the store.  (And while advertised as a ministry of the GAMC it has its own subdomain and is not under the GAMC domain.)  I would also note that the other arms, like the Presbyterian Foundation, PILP, and Publishing appear to retain their old styles. (And when I typed “investment and loan program” in the search it returned a very plain page with the styles stripped out or invalid.)  Also the new search is not nearly as useful.  The previous one returned a ministry arm, committee or office link at the top if it matched your search above the usual list of documents.  Now you just get the documents listed out.

I’ll keep looking but it will take a little getting used to.  And I don’t know how many of the items I mention above are bugs and how many are features.  I’m sure there is more testing and patching to do so I look forward to the continued work.  And I’ll start looking to fix all my broken links…