{"id":595,"date":"2009-05-27T04:00:00","date_gmt":"2009-05-27T11:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/?p=595"},"modified":"2009-05-27T04:00:00","modified_gmt":"2009-05-27T11:00:00","slug":"general-assembly-of-the-church-of-scotland-say-what","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/?p=595","title":{"rendered":"General Assembly of the Church of Scotland &#8212; Say What?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>To use the line from the old Westerns &#8212; &#8220;It&#8217;s quiet around here.&nbsp; Too quiet.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Yes, at least for the last day it does seem that office holders and members of the Church of Scotland have been observing the &#8220;urged&#8221; &#8220;quiet period&#8221; regarding public discussion of issues related to human sexuality.&nbsp; One day down, 735 to go.&nbsp; (For the record, I am an office holder and member in another Presbyterian denomination.&nbsp; I can&#8217;t imagine our gang being so well behaved.)<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, sarcasm, cliches, and snarky comments aside, I have to admit that I have been very impressed with how &#8220;all the usual suspects,&#8221; on both sides of the issue, have taken this to heart.&nbsp; <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/stewartcutler.com\/archives\/1168\">Stewart Cutler did comment<\/a> on the &#8220;gag&#8221; order itself.&nbsp; <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/kirkmuirhillrev.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/26\/last-night-at-the-assembly\/\">Ian Watson posted<\/a> the text of a news story about the quiet period.&nbsp; <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/rumoursofangels.blogspot.com\/2009\/05\/morning-after.html\">Danny expresses<\/a> the concern that waiting another two years just allows each side to become entrenched.&nbsp; And Chris Hoskins, in his reflection on Monday, says he&#8217;ll avoid that topic in his <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/chrishoskins.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/26\/ga-monday-proceedings\/\">daily reflection<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>What are the instructions?&nbsp; The minutes have not been posted yet, and I don&#8217;t see a full read-back in the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.churchofscotland.org.uk\/generalassembly\/downloads\/gaupdates09monpm.pdf\">daily updates<\/a>, but tracking back the changes (and checking it against Stewart&#8217;s text) it seems that the sections dealing with the quiet period say<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>2. Instruct all Courts, Councils and Committees of the Church not to<br \/>\nissue press statements or talk to the media or to make public comment,<br \/>\nwhether in publications or otherwise, on decision-making in relation to<br \/>\ncontentious matters of human sexuality, with respect to Ordination and<br \/>\nInduction to the Ministry of the Church of Scotland, until 31 May 2011;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>and<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>3. Urge all members who are subject to the discipline of the Courts of<br \/>\nthe Church of Scotland to act in accordance with the process outlined<br \/>\nin 1 and 2.<br \/>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And it was understood in the debate that blogging was included in the prohibited communication.<\/p>\n<p>The exact parameters are still not specifically understood and I am sure the boundaries will be worked out as people &#8220;test the limits&#8221; of the motion.&nbsp; As people have a chance to think this through there may be official guidelines.&nbsp; And while I consider it unlikely, there may even be a complete breakdown for individuals since the term is &#8220;urge,&#8221; not a strict instruction like &#8220;shall,&#8221; leaving little force for ensuring compliance.&nbsp; In fact, the limits are being tested already, <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/news.scotsman.com\/latestnews\/-Disciplinary-threat-to-Kirk.5304409.jp\">as reported by the Scotsman<\/a>, with one minister writing a letter to that paper criticizing the Assembly&#8217;s earlier action in the Aberdeen case.&nbsp; As a member of a presbytery it is being debated if he is representing the presbytery after being &#8220;instructed&#8221; not to comment, or acting as an individual after being &#8220;urged&#8221; not to.&nbsp; As is customary in Presbyterian polity it will be up to the presbytery to decide on a case to discipline a member.<\/p>\n<p>And what constitutes &#8220;public comment?&#8221;&nbsp; Could the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/transfigurations.blogspot.com\/2009\/05\/evangelicals-vow-to-hold-back-cash.html\">suggested actions of some sessions<\/a> to withold their payments to the larger church in protest be considered a form of public comment?&nbsp; This is a form of protest and comment that has been used in the PC(USA) and has clearly gotten the attention of some governing bodies there.<\/p>\n<p>So there are many uncertainties and two years to go with this.&nbsp; We will see what understandings develop as time goes on.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>To use the line from the old Westerns &#8212; &#8220;It&#8217;s quiet around here.&nbsp; Too quiet.&#8221; Yes, at least for the last day it does seem that office holders and members [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[101,37,2,40],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-595","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-blogging","category-church-of-scotland","category-general-assembly","category-ordination-standards"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>General Assembly of the Church of Scotland - Say What? 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