{"id":605,"date":"2009-05-17T04:49:00","date_gmt":"2009-05-17T11:49:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/?p=605"},"modified":"2009-05-17T04:49:00","modified_gmt":"2009-05-17T11:49:00","slug":"general-assembly-of-the-church-of-scotland-this-week-the-media-build-up-continues","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/?p=605","title":{"rendered":"General Assembly of the Church of Scotland This Week &#8212; The Media Build Up Continues"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The General Assembly of the Church of Scotland convenes in Edinburgh this Thursday.&nbsp; I&#8217;ll post once more before the Moderator calls the commissioners to order so that I can talk about something else.<\/p>\n<p>But if you only read the mainstream media on this side of the world you would think that the Assembly is about one thing, and only one thing &#8212; The suitability of the lifestyle of a partnered gay man for service as the pastor at a church in Aberdeen.<\/p>\n<p>I would like to think that the Assembly will deal with this in its usual decently and in order fashion.&nbsp; In fact, I expect that it will having followed these debates for a while.&nbsp; What I don&#8217;t know about will be what will happen after that.<\/p>\n<p>The other problem that I have is that I am following this from 8261.97 km away.&nbsp; (That would be 5133.75 mi for those of us who only know the metric system as 2-liter bottles.)&nbsp; I have been struck in the last week by the prolific, and frankly hyperbolic, coverage by the media.&nbsp; They seem to be almost exclusively focusing on the conflict and &#8220;impending doom&#8221; that this controversy in the Church of Scotland will cause.&nbsp; Yes, there is coverage of other issues, but usually in an &#8220;oh, by the way&#8221; manner.<\/p>\n<p>The hot topic of the week was the sermon preached on the last Lord&#8217;s Day by the Rev. Ian Watson.&nbsp; The title was &#8220;<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/kirkmuirhillrev.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/09\/jude-fighting-truth-decay-3\/\">Jude: Fighting Truth Decay #3<\/a>&#8221; and it is available on the Rev. Watson&#8217;s blog.&nbsp; (And I must trust that what is posted on the blog is what was preached.)&nbsp; From that the media got the following headlines<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ekklesia.co.uk\/node\/9450\">Anti-gay &#8216;Nazi&#8217; slur causes Church of Scotland outrage<\/a> &#8211; Ekklesia<br \/><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.timesonline.co.uk\/tol\/news\/uk\/scotland\/article6276839.ece\">Anti-gay Minister the Rev Ian Watson in &#8216;Nazi battle&#8217; outrage<\/a> &#8211; Times Online<br \/><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/news\/newstopics\/religion\/5316960\/Minister-compares-fight-against-homosexual-clergy-to-resistance-of-Nazis.html\">Minister compares fight against homosexual clergy to resistance of Nazis<\/a> &#8211; The Telegraph<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Having read these articles and the sermon they are based on there is clearly a reference and implicit analogy to the run-up to the Second World War that would strike a nerve in many people.&nbsp; Related to that, here is exactly what the Rev. Watson posted on his blog.&nbsp; The Introduction:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>There are very few people who enjoy conflict.&nbsp; The vast majority of<br \/>\ndecent people will do almost anything to avoid situations of<br \/>\nconfrontation.&nbsp; So, the soup may be cold, the meat tough and the<br \/>\npudding inedible, but when the waiter asks us if we are enjoying our<br \/>\nmeal we\u2019ll smile and nod.&nbsp; We don\u2019t want to complain, we don\u2019t want to<br \/>\nmake a fuss.&nbsp; We\u2019ll even pay for the privilege.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>This is how bullies succeed.&nbsp; They realize that no matter how<br \/>\nunhappy we are with their behaviour we\u2019re not going to stand up to<br \/>\nthem, because the last thing we want is a shouting match.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>That was the gamble Hitler took when he marched German troops into<br \/>\nthe Rhineland in March 1936 in breach of a condition forced on Germany<br \/>\nafter World War 1.&nbsp; It was a huge gamble.&nbsp; If the French army,<br \/>\nstationed on the other side of the border, had marched against him, the<br \/>\nGermans would have had to retreat and there\u2019s no doubt Hitler\u2019s regime<br \/>\nwould have collapsed.&nbsp; But he guessed correctly that the French had no<br \/>\nstomach for a fight.&nbsp; If only they had, then the tragedy of a second<br \/>\nWorld War might have been avoided.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And from the Conclusion<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Let me assure you, neither I nor like-minded minsters enjoy<br \/>\nconflict.&nbsp; We long to be getting on with the work of the gospel in our<br \/>\nparishes.&nbsp; It\u2019s a distraction we could do without.<\/p>\n<p>But have we learned nothing from history?&nbsp; Remember Hitler and the<br \/>\nre-taking of the Rhineland.&nbsp; He got away with it.&nbsp; No one stopped him.&nbsp;<br \/>\nSo next it was Austria, then Czechoslovakia, and then Poland and only<br \/>\nthen world war.<\/p>\n<p>I can\u2019t help asking myself: if we say nothing, do nothing at this<br \/>\ntime, what next?&nbsp; What scriptural truth is next for shaving?&nbsp; The<br \/>\nuniqueness of Christ as our only Saviour?&nbsp; The nature of God as Holy<br \/>\nTrinity? &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>What moral standards will we depart from? &nbsp;Can we expected unmarried<br \/>\ncouples in our manses? &nbsp;A line has to be drawn in the sand, or the<br \/>\nwhole edifice will come tumbling down (now there\u2019s a mixed metaphor for<br \/>\nyou!)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In between he makes no further reference to these events but talks about various conflicts in church history and his scripture passage, Jude 3-4, particularly v. 3 where it says<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i><b>Beloved, while eagerly preparing to write to you about the salvation we<br \/>\nshare, I find it necessary to write and appeal to you to contend for<br \/>\nthe faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints.<br \/><\/b><\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>While many people found Mr. Watson&#8217;s sermon illustration disturbing, the press reports that I have read focused on the Germany analogy and did not properly convey, in my opinion, the full sense of the sermon.&nbsp; In addition the media states that many religious and political leaders have expressed disapproval, but are weak backing that up with quotes.&nbsp; The Telegraph article does give two reactions:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Rev Peter Macdonald, the leader elect of the Iona Community and<br \/>\nminister of St George&#8217;s West, Edinburgh, told The Times he found the<br \/>\nsermon disturbing while Rev Lindsay Biddle, chaplain of Affirmation<br \/>\nScotland, a pro-homosexual group, said: &#8220;If you don&#8217;t like homosexuals,<br \/>\nthen get on with it \u2013 but don&#8217;t use the Bible to justify opinions.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And a defense from Rev. Watson<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Rev Watson defended his sermon: &#8220;There is no doubt that there is a<br \/>\nconflict,&#8221; he said. &#8220;I was trying to explain why I am engaged in this.<br \/>\nPeople say to me, &#8216;This is not a hill to die on&#8217;, but I think it is a<br \/>\nfight worth fighting. &#8220;Evangelicals seek to defend the historic and<br \/>\northodox Christian faith. If we don&#8217;t what are we? I am a man of<br \/>\nconvictions.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So while I can see Rev. Watson&#8217;s perspective and why some are offended and concerned by the comments, I still find the media reports as superficial and too focused on the most controversial aspects.&nbsp; (And I would note that I have searched Rev. Watson&#8217;s posted text a couple of times and he does not actually use the term &#8220;Nazi&#8221; himself, instead referring to &#8220;Hitler&#8221; and &#8220;Germany.&#8221;&nbsp; I don&#8217;t know if the media uses the term for brevity or impact?)<\/p>\n<p>The other thread that is going around related to this story, and again promoted more by the media than in direct statements that I am reading, is the prospect of schism.&nbsp; In the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/news\/newstopics\/religion\/5316960\/Minister-compares-fight-against-homosexual-clergy-to-resistance-of-Nazis.html\">Telegraph article<\/a> I have already quoted from the second paragraph opens with<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>His [The Rev. Watson&#8217;s] comments will widen divisions within the Kirk over the appointment of an openly gay minister to a parish church last year.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As far as I can tell this article is firmly in the News section, not the opinion, so I would fault the writer, Alastair Jamieson, for the inclusion of the &#8220;will widen&#8221; without a direct attribution.&nbsp; Yes, in the next paragraph he writes<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Rev Kenneth MacKenzie, the minister at Crathie Kirk, near Balmoral,<br \/>\nwhich is attended by the Queen, has warned a schism would occur if his<br \/>\nappointment was confirmed.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>But the way the article is constructed it appears Mr. Jamieson is using the Rev. MacKenzie&#8217;s statement to support his own thesis rather than report on other people&#8217;s concerns about divisions.&nbsp; And in many of these articles quotes from those who do not think there will be division are missing.<\/p>\n<p>I should point out some good coverage of the issue.&nbsp; Two good examples come from the BBC.&nbsp; There is one story that tones down the headline a bit with &#8220;<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/2\/hi\/uk_news\/scotland\/north_east\/8049761.stm\">Church Split Warning Over Gay Row<\/a>.&#8221;&nbsp; It also contains a 15 minute video that has a very good conversation between two CofS ministers, the Rev. Randall and the Rev. Gilchrist, discussing the issue and theological viewpoints.&nbsp; And they make the very important point that this controversy is about standards for ordained office, something that you could not tell from two of the three headlines I listed above.&nbsp; (Style points to the Telegraph for bringing that out in the headline.)&nbsp; The second article is on William Crawley&#8217;s religion blog <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/blogs\/ni\/2009\/05\/presbyterians_prepare_for_a_th.html\">Will &amp; Testament<\/a>.&nbsp; I enjoy William&#8217;s writing because it is usually balanced, well informed and relevant.&nbsp; This article is no exception.<\/p>\n<p>At a news conference earlier this week the Moderator Designate, the Rev. Bill Hewitt, <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.teletext.co.uk\/regionalnews\/northern-scotland\/aa0a79f8c99161034ed7ffd5b090f909\/Moderator+refuses+to+comment.aspx\">refused to answer questions<\/a> about the issue, just saying it was his job to oversee the Assembly debate.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, in <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/blogs\/ni\/2009\/05\/irish_church_leaders_join_the.html\">another post William Crawley notes<\/a> that religious leaders in Northern Ireland have added their names to the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.confessingchurch.org.uk\/\">petition from The Fellowship of Confessing Churches<\/a> that urges the restriction on those called to the pastorate.&nbsp; He points out that the list of signatories includes several former moderators of the Presbyterian Church in Ireland.<\/p>\n<p>I expect not to address this issue again before it comes to the floor of Assembly at the end of this week.&nbsp; Debate on the filed protest of Aberdeen Presbytery&#8217;s actions is docketed for Saturday evening.&nbsp; I expect to be live blogging it.&nbsp; I do want to finish one more post before the Assembly begins, especially since there is another important matter that won&#8217;t come to the floor until next year, but will have an influence on several other items of business.&nbsp;&nbsp; (Update:&nbsp; Thanks to Iain I have been informed that there are not plans to webcast the Saturday evening debate.&nbsp; I guess I&#8217;ll have to depend on the reports after the debate.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The General Assembly of the Church of Scotland convenes in Edinburgh this Thursday.&nbsp; I&#8217;ll post once more before the Moderator calls the commissioners to order so that I can talk [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[37,2,3,40],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-605","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-church-of-scotland","category-general-assembly","category-news","category-ordination-standards"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>General Assembly of the Church of Scotland This Week - The Media Build Up Continues - The GA Junkie<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/?p=605\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"General Assembly of the Church of Scotland This Week - The Media Build Up Continues - The GA Junkie\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"The General Assembly of the Church of Scotland convenes in Edinburgh this Thursday.&nbsp; 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