{"id":619,"date":"2009-04-22T05:13:00","date_gmt":"2009-04-22T12:13:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/?p=619"},"modified":"2009-04-22T05:13:00","modified_gmt":"2009-04-22T12:13:00","slug":"controvery-headed-to-the-church-of-scotland-general-assembly-increases","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/?p=619","title":{"rendered":"Controvery Headed To The Church Of Scotland General Assembly Increases"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[Editorial note:&nbsp; Before I begin with the news I did want to let my readers know that life has gotten busy and my blog writing production has dropped off.&nbsp; The family events are good and exciting but time consuming.&nbsp; That last massive post took me five days.&nbsp; As my list of news items to blog about quickly increases I anticipate a few shorter posts to cover some of them and probably bumping some of the others off the list.&nbsp; Thanks for your understanding.]<\/p>\n<p>When we <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/2009\/03\/25\/two-sign-posts-on-the-journey-with-standards-for-ordained-office-2--church-of-scotland-and-aberdeen-presbytery.aspx\">last looked<\/a> at a controversial pastoral call in the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.churchofscotland.org.uk\/\">Church of Scotland<\/a> the Commission of Assembly had decided not to rule on the protest of the presbytery&#8217;s concurrence with the call but to let the upcoming full <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.churchofscotland.org.uk\/generalassembly\/index.htm\">General Assembly<\/a> decide the matter.&nbsp; Well, in the last few days the issue has hit the press and has increased in visibility and verbiage, as well as published opinion.&nbsp; What was happening &#8220;decently and in order&#8221; as we Presbyterians like suddenly is having its trial in the press.<\/p>\n<p>First the background:&nbsp; The Rev. Scott Rennie, a partnered gay man, was called by <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.queenscrosschurch.org.uk\/\">Queen&#8217;s Cross Church<\/a>, Aberdeen, to be their new pastor.&nbsp; The <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.presbaberdeen.org.uk\/\">Presbytery of Aberdeen<\/a> concurred but 12 commissioners protested the decision because of Mr. Rennie&#8217;s lifestyle.&nbsp; As I said, the Commission of Assembly, a body with interim authority between Assembly meetings, heard the protest and decided this was of such significance that the full Assembly needed to deal with it.&nbsp; So we were waiting for the Assembly meeting in just about a month.<\/p>\n<p>Over the last few days the issue has now flared up in the press.&nbsp; It appears to have begun with an editorial in the latest issue of the Church of Scotland&#8217;s monthly publication <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.churchofscotland.org.uk\/lifework\/index.htm\"><i>Life and Work<\/i><\/a>.&nbsp; The magazine is editorially independent and appears only in print so the editorial is not available on-line as best as I can tell.&nbsp; Accounts all seem to agree that the editorial in the latest issue takes the side of the Rev. Rennie.&nbsp; As the Rev. Louis Kinsey <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/coffeewithlouis.wordpress.com\/2009\/04\/17\/a-terrible-editorial-in-life-work\/\">says about this<\/a> in his blog <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/coffeewithlouis.wordpress.com\">Coffee with Louis<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In her editorial, Muriel Armstrong writes about the General Assembly<br \/>\nof the Kirk, shortly to take place in Edinburgh, and focuses entirely<br \/>\non the case of the Rev Scott Rennie, whose call to the congregation of<br \/>\nQueen\u2019s Cross in Aberdeen is being resisted by dissenters from that<br \/>\nPresbytery, amongst whom I am one.<\/p>\n<p>The serious mistake that <i>Life &amp; Work<\/i> has made here is<br \/>\nthat the magazine attempts to argue this case and&nbsp;to bring it to a<br \/>\nliberal conclusion long before the General Assembly even convenes. &nbsp;How<br \/>\ncan it be considered fair or proper to discuss a case and to say what<br \/>\nthe outcome should be before the Kirk\u2019s highest court has convened and<br \/>\ndebated? &nbsp; This is simply prejudice, not journalism.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Mr. Kinsey goes on to fault the magazine not for being editorially independent but for being &#8220;so manifestly one-sided and unbalanced.&#8221;&nbsp; And his concern is with the timing so close to the beginning of GA it will influence the commissioners.&nbsp; And he has concerns about how she has formed her opinions:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>How can she know the evidence? &nbsp;Has she seen all of it? &nbsp;If not, and I<br \/>\nmost sincerely hope she has not, for the evidence is confidential, how<br \/>\ncan she offer anything resembling a responsible point of view. &nbsp;Her<br \/>\neditorial is factually incomplete and numerically misleading. &nbsp;It is<br \/>\nnaive about the way scripture is to be read and used in the modern<br \/>\nworld. &nbsp;It also demonstrates remarkable ignorance of the biblical and<br \/>\ntheological issues that are involved, choosing to try and conclude the<br \/>\nargument with a few sweeping generalizations about homosexuality and<br \/>\nthe integrity of relationships.&nbsp; <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And Mr. Kinsey finishes with this:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The editorial ends with a swipe at the dissenters, reminding us of our<br \/>\nordination vows &#8211; which we are presumably forgetting &#8211; vows about the<br \/>\npreservation of the peace and unity of the church, the very peace and<br \/>\nunity that is being threatened by those who press this matter,<br \/>\nincluding <i>Life &amp; Work<\/i>, and not by the dissenters. &nbsp;It is no wonder at all that <i>Life &amp; Wor<\/i>k<br \/>\nis so disregarded in evangelical congregations and by evangelical<br \/>\nministers and elders&#8230;&nbsp; It presents itself as the magazine of a<br \/>\nbroad church, but it is clear that the broadness of the church works<br \/>\nonly in one direction. &nbsp;It is a broadness that suits those who are<br \/>\ntheologically liberal but which shows&nbsp;a growing intolerance towards<br \/>\nevangelicals and their theology.&nbsp; <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>You can also check out media coverage of the editorial by the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/2\/hi\/uk_news\/8010975.stm\">BBC<\/a> and <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.christiantoday.com\/article\/kirk.magazine.criticises.traditionalists.on.homosexuality\/23110.htm\">Christian Today<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>But this editorial and the Rev. Kinsey&#8217;s response was only the beginning.&nbsp; Yesterday Mr. Ron Ferguson authored an <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.theherald.co.uk\/features\/featuresopinon\/display.var.2502998.0.Gay_minister_is_no_reason_to_divide_the_Kirk.php\">opinion piece in The Herald<\/a> that raised the possibility of a modern split in the Church of Scotland like the Disruption of 1843.&nbsp; Again Mr. Kinsey <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/coffeewithlouis.wordpress.com\/2009\/04\/20\/ron-ferguson-throws-up-a-smoke-screen\/\">responds<\/a> to this article saying:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A divide may indeed eventually come over the issue of the affair of<br \/>\nAberdeen Presbytery, but whatever form and shape it will take, it will<br \/>\nonly be the visible manifestation&nbsp;of a divide that has existed for some<br \/>\ntime.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In addition, <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.theherald.co.uk\/features\/letters\/display.var.2503431.0.Will_Church_of_Scotland_allow_congregation_to_call_a_gay_minister.php\">The Herald has posted some letters to the editor<\/a> on both sides of the issue.<\/p>\n<p>With these two opinion pieces being widely reported the blogosphere has lit up as well, including this post.&nbsp; Others discussing it include <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.anglican-mainstream.net\/?p=9810\">Anglican Mainstream<\/a>, <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/euangelizomai.blogspot.com\/2009\/04\/church-of-scotland-and-gay-ministers.html\">Euangelion<\/a>, and <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/gay-religion.blogspot.com\/2009\/04\/church-of-scotland-magazine-backs-gay.html\">Gay Religion<\/a> among many others.<\/p>\n<p>While I expected this to be a major focus at the Assembly, I am a bit surprised that it has become such a high-visibility story ahead of the Assembly.&nbsp; I expect that we can see statements from <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.forwardtogether.org.uk\/\">Forward Together<\/a> and <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.affirmationscotland.org.uk\/\">Affirmation Scotland<\/a> leading up to the meeting.&nbsp; We will see how much more this issue develops in the next month.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[Editorial note:&nbsp; 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