{"id":662,"date":"2009-02-03T17:24:00","date_gmt":"2009-02-04T01:24:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/?p=662"},"modified":"2009-02-03T17:24:00","modified_gmt":"2009-02-04T01:24:00","slug":"moderator-designate-of-the-presbyterian-church-in-ireland","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/?p=662","title":{"rendered":"Moderator Designate Of The Presbyterian Church In Ireland"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Greetings &#8212; This post will be in two parts.&nbsp; Part I will be posted before the vote and then I will add Part II after the vote.&nbsp; Therefore, if you get this by e-mail or you check your feed reader early you may need to check back if you are interested in the result.<\/p>\n<p>Also, a hat tip to my favorite source of insight into the PCI, <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/alaninbelfast.blogspot.com\/\">Alan in Belfast<\/a>, for making the connection about one of the candidates.&nbsp; I&#8217;d been keeping up on the vote, but had overlooked <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/alaninbelfast.blogspot.com\/2009\/02\/will-media-choose-next-presbyterian.html\">the back story<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><u>Part I<\/u><br \/>In a few hours the presbyteries of the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.presbyterianireland.org\/\">Presbyterian Church in Ireland<\/a> will be voting on the designate for the Moderator of this year&#8217;s General Assembly.<\/p>\n<p>Up until a few years ago the process was that the presbyteries met simultaneously and each came up with their own choice with no pre-defined list.&nbsp; Now <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.presbyterianireland.org\/news\/news2009\/news0651.html\">there is a list<\/a>, this year with three nominees, and the presbyteries all on the same evening select their choice from that list.<\/p>\n<p>This year the nominees are:<br \/>Rev. Norman Hamilton, O.B.E.: Minister at <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.presbyterianireland.org\/congregations\/ballysillan.html\">Ballysillan<\/a> since 1988, ordained in 1983 and serves on the Church and Society Committee<\/p>\n<p>Rev. Derek McKelvey: Minister at <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.fisherwick.net\/\">Fisherwick<\/a> since 1994, ordained in 1971 and has been the convener of the Students&#8217; Bursary Fund and the co-convener of the Strategy for Mission Committee<\/p>\n<p>Rev. Stafford Carson: Minister at <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.firstportadown.org\/\">First Portadown<\/a> since 2005, ordained in 1983 and has been the convener of the Review of Theological Education Committee and the Committee re Deacons.&nbsp; He currently convenes the Resourcing Christians for Ministry Committee and was an administrator at <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.wts.edu\/\">Westminster Theological Seminary<\/a>, Philadelphia.<\/p>\n<p>Back story #1 (which <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/2009\/01\/16\/bad-news-from-the-presbyterian-mutual-society-in-ireland.aspx\">I have been following<\/a> and will do an update on in the near future): The collapse of the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.presbyterianireland.org\/mutual\/index.html\">Presbyterian Mutual Society<\/a>.&nbsp; I expect questions about this to come up at the press conference tomorrow morning.&nbsp; The current and past Moderators have been <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/2\/hi\/uk_news\/northern_ireland\/7859869.stm\">injecting themselves into this situation<\/a> more and more.<\/p>\n<p>Back story #2 (H\/T <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/alaninbelfast.blogspot.com\/2009\/02\/will-media-choose-next-presbyterian.html\">Alan<\/a>):&nbsp; I had not made the connection that the Rev. Carson was one of the ministers involved in the Christmas service controversy in Portadown <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/2007\/12\/29\/controversy-over-women-ministers-in-the-presbyterian-church-in-ireland.aspx\">beginning back in 2007<\/a>.&nbsp; Briefly, Rev. Carson&#8217;s church and neighboring Armagh Road Church have a tradition of doing joint Christmas services with the visiting pastor preaching.&nbsp; However, in 2007 when the service was to be at First Portadown Rev. Carson would not permit the female pastor of Armagh Road to preach, citing the privilege given to a pastor to approve who may preach at their church, a provision granted in the PC Ireland for those pastors that have scripturally-based objections of conscience to ordaining women.&nbsp; No compromise could be reached between the churches <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/2008\/11\/07\/women-clergy-controversy-continues-in-ireland.aspx\">in 2008<\/a> so the service was not held again.&nbsp; If Rev. Carson is elected this evening, as Alan is predicting, expect some questions on women as clergy tomorrow at the press conference.&nbsp; There could also be some interesting situations throughout the Moderatorial year.<\/p>\n<p><u>Part II<\/u>&nbsp; And the Moderator designate is&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Well, it looks like Alan in Belfast both <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/alaninbelfast.blogspot.com\/2009\/02\/moderator-designate-rev-stafford-carson.html\">broke the story with the results<\/a>, as well as correctly predicting the outcome in <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/alaninbelfast.blogspot.com\/2009\/02\/will-media-choose-next-presbyterian.html\">his earlier post<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The 21 presbyteries of the Presbyterian Church in Ireland this evening selected the Rev. Stafford Carson, pastor of First Portadown, as the moderator designate for the 2009 General Assembly.&nbsp; Mr. Stafford was selected by ten presbyteries while Mr. Hamilton was selected by six and Mr. McKelvey by five.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll update tomorrow after press releases and stories as well as the traditional news conference.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Greetings &#8212; This post will be in two parts.&nbsp; Part I will be posted before the vote and then I will add Part II after the vote.&nbsp; Therefore, if you [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2,32,40,33],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-662","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general-assembly","category-moderator","category-ordination-standards","category-pc-ireland"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Moderator Designate Of The Presbyterian Church In Ireland - The GA Junkie<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/?p=662\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Moderator Designate Of The Presbyterian Church In Ireland - The GA Junkie\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Greetings &#8212; 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