{"id":673,"date":"2009-01-16T22:33:00","date_gmt":"2009-01-17T06:33:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/?p=673"},"modified":"2009-01-16T22:33:00","modified_gmt":"2009-01-17T06:33:00","slug":"bad-news-from-the-presbyterian-mutual-society-in-ireland","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/?p=673","title":{"rendered":"Bad News From The Presbyterian Mutual Society In Ireland"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Back in the fall <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/2008\/11\/12\/financial-crisis-has-varing-impact-on-presbyterian-investment-funds.aspx\">when I looked<\/a> at the impact the current global financial crisis was having on Presbyterian entities I mentioned that the worst hit appeared to be the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.presbyterianireland.org\/mutual\/index.html\">Presbyterian Mutual Society<\/a>, an independent financial organization associated with the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.presbyterianireland.org\">Presbyterian Church in Ireland<\/a>.&nbsp; Well, this week the news about the Society and its future came out as a pretty bad, but not quite worst-case, scenario, if the members agree with the proposed dissolution.<\/p>\n<p>For background, the Presbyterian Mutual Society was founded as a way for individuals to invest their money in a way which would benefit churches.&nbsp; However, the Society, in addition to the church loans, also got into commercial real estate and with the sharp drop in property values found itself with holdings worth significantly less than the value of the deposits.&nbsp; As the individuals looked at the situation they decided to take out their money, there was a run on the bank, and the Society essentially collapsed.&nbsp; An Administrator was appointed to see what could be done.<\/p>\n<p>Yesterday the Administrator of the Society <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.presbyterianireland.org\/mutual\/index.html\">announced<\/a> that no source of external help could be found to rescue the organization.&nbsp; As an alternative, the Administrator is proposing an orderly liquidation of the assets.&nbsp; The statement says:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nThe Administrator appointed to the Presbyterian Mutual Society has<br \/>\nwritten to its members with a series of proposals which, if accepted,<br \/>\nwould see an orderly run down of its business over time through a<br \/>\nformal arrangement allowed for under insolvency legislation.<\/p>\n<p>This would have the effect of repaying part of the members&#8217; investments<br \/>\nover a period to be agreed. If the proposals are not accepted, the<br \/>\nSociety will have to be placed in liquidation with the likelihood of<br \/>\nmembers receiving less money back than if they proceeded with the<br \/>\nformal arrangement.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>and<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nHe said it was unlikely that the Society in its current form could<br \/>\ncontinue as a going concern. Although its assets &#8220;had not disappeared&#8221;,<br \/>\nthe reality was that the collapse in the UK property market had<br \/>\nsignificantly reduced the value of the Society&#8217;s commercial property<br \/>\nportfolio and the value of the Society&#8217;s security over property in its<br \/>\nloan book.<\/p>\n<p>Given current market conditions, the Society&#8217;s assets could not be sold<br \/>\nquickly at a fair value and he therefore proposed the business should<br \/>\nbe wound down in a managed and orderly way through a formal arrangement<br \/>\nwith its members.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It is now up to the members to accept this proposal.<\/p>\n<p>It is no surprise that there has been significant media coverage and political discussion.&nbsp; This includes <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/2\/hi\/uk_news\/northern_ireland\/7834029.stm\">calls from the Norther Ireland government<\/a> for the UK government to cover the deposits, a suggestion for the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.newsletter.co.uk\/news\/PMS-shareholders-told-to-knuckle.4883457.jp\">society members to wait it out<\/a> and let the property market recover, and questions about the church&#8217;s <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.newsletter.co.uk\/news\/Concerns-over-Churchs-ability-to.4872423.jp\">responsibility for the Society<\/a> and its investments.<\/p>\n<p><u>UPDATE<\/u>:&nbsp; Later today after posting this <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/newspaper\/ireland\/2009\/0117\/1232059656611.html\">another news story<\/a> came out that the Presbyterian Church in Ireland has formed an action group to address the issue.&nbsp; The group is made up of two past Moderators of the General Assembly and two senior church treasurers.<\/p>\n<p>The members of the Society have until January 30 to return their votes accepting the plan.&nbsp; We will see what the decision is and if the government steps in to help before than.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Back in the fall when I looked at the impact the current global financial crisis was having on Presbyterian entities I mentioned that the worst hit appeared to be the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,33],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-673","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news","category-pc-ireland"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.2 - 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