{"id":750,"date":"2008-08-15T19:55:00","date_gmt":"2008-08-16T02:55:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/?p=750"},"modified":"2008-08-15T19:55:00","modified_gmt":"2008-08-16T02:55:00","slug":"the-church-integrated-not-institutional","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/?p=750","title":{"rendered":"The Church &#8212; Integrated Not Institutional?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There are some big happenings just south of here in Orange County this weekend.<\/p>\n<p>The <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.presbyterianglobalfellowship.org\">Presbyterian Global Fellowship<\/a> is holding their third annual <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pgfconference.org\/pgfconference\/index.php?id=29\">Inside-Out Conference<\/a> in Long Beach this weekend. For details of what is happening you can check out the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/pgf.typepad.com\/outbox\/\">PGF Outbox blog<\/a>.&nbsp; (For the GA Junkies out there this is the same convention center that was the site of the 212th General Assembly (2000) of the PC(USA).)<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s also <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/saddlebackcivilforum.com\/index.html\">some political event<\/a> going on at a <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/saddleback.com\">megachurch<\/a> down there.&nbsp; With the price of one of the good seats at $2000 I&#8217;m skipping it.&nbsp; But seriously, this blending (blurring?) of church and state has raised issues with some people. (<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/newsweek.washingtonpost.com\/onfaith\/susan_k_smith\/2008\/08\/politics_and_pulpits.html\">Example 1<\/a> and <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/newsweek.washingtonpost.com\/onfaith\/undergod\/2008\/08\/rick_warren_official_pastor_of.html\">Example 2<\/a> from <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/newsweek.washingtonpost.com\/onfaith\/\">On Faith<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>But I want to take a step back from this direct and high-profile political involvement and mention another church and culture article.&nbsp; This comes from David Virtue of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.virtueonline.org\/portal\/\" target=\"_blank\">Virtue Online<\/a> and in a <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.virtueonline.org\/portal\/modules\/news\/article.php?storyid=8845\">recent post<\/a> he discusses a book by Dr. Peter Hammond titled <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Slavery-Terrorism-Islam-Historical-Contemporary\/dp\/0958454981\/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1218828973&amp;sr=8-4\">Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat<\/a>. (now apparently out of print)&nbsp; Mr. Virtue begins his entry with this:<\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-left: 40px;\">Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.<\/p>\n<p>Islam<br \/>\nhas religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The<br \/>\nreligious component is a beard for all the other components.<\/div>\n<p>You may or may not agree with this and if you agree you may consider the concept of a complete system a positive or a negative (Mr. Virtue goes on to discuss it as a negative).&nbsp; But it struck me that a scholar and friend of mine views the ancient Hebrew society as a complete system with implications for the modern Christian Church to be integrated in society, not an institution outside it.&nbsp; This is not that the United States should be a theocracy, but rather how Christians corporately and individually participate in our culture.&nbsp; And yes, this flies in the face of American individualism and the church as just a spiritual institution.<\/p>\n<p>The Rev. Dr. Robert Linthicum is a parish associate at our church and head of the parachurch organization <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.piut.org\/\">Partners in Urban Transformation<\/a>.&nbsp; Previously an urban parish minister and leader at World Vision in urban ministry, he is an expert in community organizing.&nbsp; With his background and study he has a theological perspective that sees the Biblical instructions to ancient Israel as a complete system, an integration of their spiritual, economic and political life so that there are no rich or poor but a culture that is equitable to everyone.&nbsp; And through this lens he reads the rest of the Bible to see God&#8217;s people as the workers for God&#8217;s social vision even today.<\/p>\n<p>Now, you may not agree with his theological viewpoint; I can say that I am not in total agreement with some of the things I have heard Bob say.&nbsp; But in the same way that Mr. Virtue is discussing Islam as a complete system, this particular view has ancient Israel intended to be a complete system and the Christian Church the inheritors of that legacy.<\/p>\n<p>I have been trying to find a good resource on line that explains some of this but have not located any.&nbsp; You can get some of this viewpoint from one of Rev. Linthicum&#8217;s sermons (larger <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.lvhpc.org\/audio\/sermon091607.mp3\">mp3<\/a>, smaller <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.lvhpc.org\/audio\/sermon091607.wma\">wma<\/a>).&nbsp; His central books on this are <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Transforming-Power-Strategies-Difference-Community\/dp\/0830832289\/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1218831485&amp;sr=8-3\">Transforming Power<\/a> and <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Building-People-Power-Robert-Linthicum\/dp\/1932805516\/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1218831485&amp;sr=8-2\">Building a People of Power<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>For consideration.&nbsp; Your mileage may vary.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There are some big happenings just south of here in Orange County this weekend. The Presbyterian Global Fellowship is holding their third annual Inside-Out Conference in Long Beach this weekend. 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