{"id":864,"date":"2008-02-18T23:35:00","date_gmt":"2008-02-19T07:35:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/?p=864"},"modified":"2008-02-18T23:35:00","modified_gmt":"2008-02-19T07:35:00","slug":"nothing-has-changed-reaction-to-the-pcusa-gapjc-decisions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/?p=864","title":{"rendered":"Nothing Has Changed! Reaction to the PC(USA) GAPJC Decisions"},"content":{"rendered":"

I quite intentionally used “Nothing has changed!” as a double entendre<\/span> in the title because watching the reaction to last week’s General Assembly Permanent Judicial Commission’s decisions<\/a> about ordination standards it seems that neither PC(USA) polity nor the various interest groups’ rhetoric has changed.  As far as I can tell, the PC(USA) is pretty close to where it was two years ago on this controversy.<\/p>\n

I first want to highlight, acknowledge, and thank two other bloggers for their thoughtful and detailed analyses on the decisions.  Even though Rev. David Fischler at The Reformed Pastor<\/a> and Mr. Mark Smith over at Mark Time<\/a> approach these decisions from different theological perspectives they come to basically the same conclusions about these decisions and where it puts us.  And that they both came to a similar conclusion as I did encourages me that I was not off-base on my reading<\/a>.  Both of these are wonderful blogs in their own right, and part of my regular reading, but you can check out the specific posts from Rev. Fischler<\/a> and Mr. Smith<\/a> on the GAPJC decisions.  In a few moments I’ll be turning to the reaction to the decisions of various interest  groups, but you can check through The Reformed Pastor<\/a> for Rev. Fischler’s reactions to those as well.<\/p>\n

There has been little “official” reaction to these decisions.  The Office of the General Assembly Department of Constitutional Services<\/a> has issued Advisory Opinion 21<\/a> which contains only a summary of the GAPJC decisions and nothing new beyond that.  It appears that the Presbyterian News Service is not issuing a news article of their own, but rather they carry the article<\/a> that Leslie Scanlon of the Presbyterian Outlook<\/a> wrote for that publication.  <\/p>\n

The Outlook also has another article<\/a> by Scanlon about GA Moderator Joan Gray’s reaction to the decisions that she shared with the General Assembly Council<\/a> at their just concluded meeting.  Rev. Gray is reported as sharing her theme from her moderator campaign that \u201cI do not think polity is the way to the resolution of our issues in the Presbyterian church.  Polity will not fix our problems.\u201d  The Moderator goes on to encourage three things: 1) Humble ourselves, “get off our high horses.”  2) Ask forgiveness of one another. 3) Accept unconditional love to reach out.  She also called this a kairos<\/i> moment for the PC(USA).  Are we going to miss it?<\/p>\n

Reaction from affinity and interest groups has started rolling in and I guess I would call it “predictable.”  Presbyterians for Renewal<\/a> had one of the early statements<\/a> (On their GA2008 web site<\/a>).  To simplify their statement down to one line:  The rulings promote the Peace, Unity, and Purity of the church by affirming what has been in place and clarifying the confusing Authoritative Interpretation passed by the last GA.<\/p>\n

On the other side of things there is reaction on the web sites of the More Light Presbyterians<\/a>, That All May Freely Serve<\/a>, Witherspoon Society<\/a>, and the Covenant Network<\/a>.  In addition, More Light Presbyterians has issued a more general reaction to the whole PC(USA) situation titled “It’s about time!<\/a>”  I won’t quote and comment on them one-by-one since they all say about the same thing in varying degrees.  As a whole, they feel the GAPJC at best set things back and at worst made a serious error.  There is concern that the GAPJC is not interpreting the whole of the Confessions and the Book of Order but focusing on one line or section.  And that the GAPJC did not understand what the last GA wanted to accomplish.  They do agree with the GAPJC on one point:  As things stand now the only way to change things is to change the Book of Order.  As That All May Freely Serve puts it: “The decision, however, puts in stark relief the necessity for swiftly and finally removing the homophobic and heterosexist policies from the Presbyterian constitution.”  I think that pretty clearly states their position.<\/p>\n

And the two individuals who have declared exceptions have indicated their disappointment in the decisions, Paul Capetz on the Witherspoon Society web site<\/a> and Lisa Larges in an Alameda Times-Star article<\/a>.<\/p>\n

A couple of my own comments:<\/p>\n

First, the three decisions were decided by the GAPJC with out a dissenting opinion.  All the GAPJC members were apparently in agreement.  Whether these were unanimous or consensus decisions, or all adopted the majority position so that they could present a united front in deference to the unity called for in the PUP report I don’t know.  But I find it difficult to say the GAPJC erred in light of this wide agreement.<\/p>\n

Second, back in 1996-1997 when the “fidelity and chastity” section was being debated and ultimately adopted there was a report that one of the reasons that the amendment was needed for polity reasons was because the GAPJC was beginning to have concerns about upholding the Definitive Guidance of 1978 and similar interpretive statements without any clear corresponding constitutional language.  These current decisions, now from the situation of having the constitutional language but an additional AI interpreting it, seem compatible with the 1997 reports.  It is consistent that the GAPJC places more weight on the presbytery adopted language of the constitution then the interpretive language adopted by a General Assembly alone.  From a polity point of view that makes sense.<\/p>\n

With the apparent return to status quo<\/i> in the PC(USA) it does raise the question of whether there will be a slowing or suspension of congregations looking to leave.  I personally think that most of the churches looking to depart are trains that have “left the station” and there will be no discernible slow-down in requests for dismissal.  But if you want an interesting imaginary debate on the issue you can check out Toby Brown’s post today<\/a> (and the real debate in the comments) o
\nn his blog Classical Presbyterian<\/a>.<\/p>\n

So in the realm of polity it does look like “Nothing has changed.”  From what I can tell in a strict polity sense the PC(USA) is now at almost the same point as about two years ago before the PUP report.  And having been one of the voices to express skepticism<\/a> that “Nothing has changed” I acknowledge my haste and will try to be better at what I preach, to be patient and trust the system<\/a>.<\/p>\n

But as I thought about this more, I realized that the GAPJC decisions mean something has changed and that threatens That All May Freely Serve and More Light Presbyterians among others.  For a couple of decades churches that are part of these organizations have been effectively scrupling behavior.  There is now an explicit GAPJC ruling that you can not do that so the implicit permission (or lack of explicit prohibition) is gone.  And I suspect that with the 2008 GA approaching progressive advocacy groups are now reformulating strategy.  It seems everyone now agrees that the only way to reliably change the ordination standards is to change the constitution.  Looking at the proposed overtures concerning ordination standards there seems to be some that in the perceived success of the AI last time are proposing new AI’s.  I suspect that a bunch of those are now going to be off the table with this new GAPJC ruling that weakens the reach of AI’s.  We are back to needing to make a change that must be sent down to the presbyteries.  Don’t expect a resolution to this at the conclusion of General Assembly.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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