{"id":888,"date":"2008-01-21T21:23:00","date_gmt":"2008-01-22T05:23:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/?p=888"},"modified":"2008-01-21T21:23:00","modified_gmt":"2008-01-22T05:23:00","slug":"recent-developments-in-churches-breaking-with-the-pcusa","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/?p=888","title":{"rendered":"Recent Developments in Churches Breaking with the PC(USA)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I made a decision a while back to not worry about posting the updates and details of the several and on-going cases where churches are leaving the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pcusa.org\" target=\"_blank\"> Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)<\/a> (PC(USA)), particularly those associated with the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newwineconvo.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"> New Wineskins Association of Churches<\/a> (NWAC) and particularly those moving to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.epc.org\/\" target=\"_blank\"> Evangelical Presbyterian Church<\/a> (EPC).&nbsp; The reasons for my not covering them in detail are many:&nbsp; Others, particularly the blog <a href=\"http:\/\/pcusalist.blogspot.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"> PresbyLaw<\/a> and the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.layman.org\/layman\/Resources\/churches-leaving-chart.htm\" target=\"_blank\"> Layman Online<\/a>, are already doing a good job keeping all of us up-to-date on the details.&nbsp; Also, while each case is different, many can be grouped in the different categories of &#8220;leaving with property,&#8221; &#8220;leaving with property after a settlement with the presbytery,&#8221; &#8220;leaving without property,&#8221; and those that are still in the process tied up in either church processes or civil litigation.&nbsp; So, not to deny the significance of any individual church, from a process point of view I was afraid that blogging the individual cases would start to sound repetitive.&nbsp; Finally, it looked like posting updates on the 60-100 churches that are going through this would consume a good portion of my blogging time that I would rather target to a broader range of polity issues.<\/p>\n<p>Having said that, I do want to comment on the current high-profile case since it has a number of interesting distinctives.<\/p>\n<p>At a congregational meeting yesterday the members of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.memorialparkchurch.org\/\" target=\"_blank\"> Memorial Park Presbyterian Church<\/a> in Allison Park, PA, voted by a margin of 664-25 to leave the PC(USA).&nbsp; Among the distinctives of Memorial Park are that it is the largest church in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pghpresbytery.org\/\" target=\"_blank\"> Pittsburgh Presbytery<\/a> with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pcusa.org\/tenyeartrends\/report\/JBICCO1\/all_statistics.jsp\" target=\"_blank\">over 1650 members<\/a> and the senior pastor, the Rev. Dr. D. Dean Weaver, is the co-moderator of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newwineconvo.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"> New Wineskins Association of Churches<\/a>.&nbsp; But the most distinctive thing that brought them to the vote yesterday was the way in which this journey unfolded.<\/p>\n<p>The first vote was on June 3, 2007, when the congregation voted 951-93 to request dismissal from the PC(USA) to the EPC. (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.memorialparkchurch.org\/PressRelease.html\" target=\"_blank\"> church press release<\/a>)&nbsp; Memorial Park then began negotiating with the Pittsburgh Presbytery to be dismissed.&nbsp; It should surprise none of us that the negotiations were basically about money, at least if the latest information is accurate.&nbsp; According to a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.memorialparkchurch.org\/pdfs\/January%203%20Congregational%20Letter.pdf\" target=\"_blank\"> letter the church sent out on January 3, 2008<\/a>, the church and the presbytery were far apart on offers and request, and no progress had been made in several months.&nbsp; The church then initiated legal action to secure the property (&#8220;quiet title claim&#8221;) in the Allegheny County Common Pleas Court. (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.post-gazette.com\/pg\/08005\/846941-54.stm\" target=\"_blank\"> Pittsburgh Post-Gazett Article<\/a>)&nbsp; Following the court filing the Presbytery&#8217;s Administrative Commission appears to have tried to invoke &#8220;original jurisdiction&#8221; and take control of the church, including the instruction that the congregational meeting yesterday be canceled.&nbsp; The church requested from the Common Pleas Court, and got, an injunction against the presbytery so that the meeting could procede.&nbsp; The Presbytery agreed not to further contest the injunction as long as the church did not transfer the property yet.&nbsp; At the meeting the congregation voted 664-25 to dissolve all ties to the PC(USA) and affiliate with the EPC.&nbsp; (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.post-gazette.com\/pg\/08021\/850927-54.stm\" target=\"_blank\"> Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Article about the new developments<\/a>)&nbsp; Following the court filing the Presbytery also sent a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pghpresbytery.org\/news\/pdfs\/mp_update_0114.pdf\" target=\"_blank\"> letter<\/a> out to members of the Presbytery.<\/p>\n<p>That is where the case sits at this moment, but this is far from over.&nbsp; Because the congregation now considers itself a member of the EPC, or at least not a member of the PC(USA), the Administrative Commission should have no further power or authority.&nbsp; The Presbytery emphasizes that the church did not follow the process for departure and was never released, therefore it is still a PC(USA) congregation.&nbsp; As you can probably guess, Judge Judith L. Friedman of the Court of Common Pleas will probably have the next, but certainly not the last, say on this.&nbsp; Court arguments will resume tomorrow.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I made a decision a while back to not worry about posting the updates and details of the several and on-going cases where churches are leaving the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) 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