{"id":893,"date":"2008-01-16T14:45:00","date_gmt":"2008-01-16T22:45:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/?p=893"},"modified":"2008-01-16T14:45:00","modified_gmt":"2008-01-16T22:45:00","slug":"san-francisco-presbytery-approves-a-non-essential-departure","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/?p=893","title":{"rendered":"San Francisco Presbytery Approves a Non-essential Departure"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>At their meeting yesterday the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sfpby.org\/\" target=\"_blank\"> San Francisco Presbytery<\/a> of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pcusa.org\" target=\"_blank\"> Presbyterian Church (USA)<\/a> discussed the request of Ms. Lisa Larges to declare a non-essential departure from the standards of the&nbsp; church constitution and they approved the departure as non-essential by a vote of 167-151 making her certified ready to receive a call as a Minister of Word and Sacrament and to be ordained to that call.<\/p>\n<p>What did he just say?&nbsp; That is the &#8220;polity correct&#8221; description of the action taken by San Francisco Presbytery yesterday in the case of Lisa Larges, a self-acknowledged homosexual, who is seeking to be ordained as a minister in the PC(USA).&nbsp; For the background on this and information on her two previous attempts and the associated GA PJC case I would refer you to <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/2008\/01\/12\/ordination-standards-postpup-in-san-francisco-presbytery-meeting-this-week.aspx\"> my previous post<\/a> on the subject.<\/p>\n<p>Yesterday, the presbytery Committee on Preparation for Ministry brought her request to the whole presbytery for action.&nbsp; The request was to agree with her declaration that her theology departed from the PC(USA) constitution&#8217;s prohibition on ordination of self-acknowledged practicing homosexuals (good old G-6.0106b in the Book of Order) but under the 2006 General Assembly Authoritative Interpretation she requested that the section be declared non-essential to the Reformed faith.&nbsp; By doing that, the way would be clear for her to accept a call and be ordained.<\/p>\n<p>I do not have much on the specifics of the report or the debate but I do know that there was a minority report.&nbsp; Based upon the news accounts (such as this <a href=\"http:\/\/www.contracostatimes.com\/religion\/ci_7985922\" target=\"_blank\"> Contra Costa Times story<\/a>) we know the vote was close &#8211; 167 to 151.&nbsp; And based on other information I know the debate went late.&nbsp; I&#8217;ll update as information is disseminated since the story is now starting to circulate on the news feeds and blogosphere.&nbsp; The news has been posted on the web site of Ms. Larges&#8217; employer, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tamfs.org\/\" target=\"_blank\"> That All May Freely Serve<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>What is next?&nbsp; In the normal course of the ordination process Ms. Larges would receive a call and would be examined on the floor of presbytery for ordination.&nbsp; So there is still another presbytery vote yet to come.&nbsp; That examination and vote has been announced to be in April.&nbsp; But this is now the test case for the 2006 Authoritative Interpretation (AI) so I would expect this ordination exam to be held up by the Synod PJC as a case is filed and whichever way the Synod PJC goes I would expect an appeal to the General Assembly PJC, unless developments at the June General Assembly, like the requested repeal of the AI, change the landscape.&nbsp; The ordination and maybe the exam could be held up for a while.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>At their meeting yesterday the San Francisco Presbytery of the Presbyterian Church (USA) discussed the request of Ms. Lisa Larges to declare a non-essential departure from the standards of the&nbsp; [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,40,5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-893","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news","category-ordination-standards","category-pcusa"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>San Francisco Presbytery Approves a Non-essential Departure - The GA Junkie<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/blog.gajunkie.com\/?p=893\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"San Francisco Presbytery Approves a Non-essential Departure - The GA Junkie\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"At their meeting yesterday the San Francisco Presbytery of the Presbyterian Church (USA) discussed the request of Ms. Lisa Larges to declare a non-essential departure from the standards of the&nbsp; 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