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Presbyterian News Headlines For The Week Ending November 17, 2013

Let me begin this week with information about the response to the typhoon that hit the Philippines:

Bruce Reyes-Chow, the Moderator of the 218th GA of the PC(USA) was in the Philippines when the typhoon hit and has been blogging about it on his personal blog and then his Patheos blog. In addition the PC(USA) Presbyterian Disaster Assistance is collecting relief money and the leadership of the church have issued a call to prayer.

In the Presbyterian Church in Canada their Presbyterian World Service & Development has issued an emergency appeal.

The Presbyterian Church in America is responding through their Mission to the World branch.

Similarly the Presbyterian Church in Ireland is reaching out through their Mission Overseas agency. The Belfast News Letter carries an article, “Superb Generosity of our Ulster Churches“, with comments by the Moderator of the General Assembly.

The Orthodox Presbyterian Church has no direct mission in that country but is collecting funds to partner with similar Reformed bodies that are present there.

The Church of Scotland and others in the UK are directing donations to the Disasters Emergency Committee or the Tearfund. In the US some, like the Evangelical Presbyterian Church, are directing donors to World Relief.

In other headlines…

A determined woman leads Tripoli church – from The Daily Star (Lebanon); “TRIPOLI, Lebanon: Rola Sleiman never planned on running a church. But
when the opportunity came along five years ago, she embraced the chance
to serve a small Presbyterian congregation in Lebanon’s second city.”

Moderator: War on slavery ‘best way to honour Livingstone’s legacy’ – from STV News; Comments by the Church of Scotland Moderator of the General Assembly at a service marking the bicentennial of David Livingstone’s birth

Hillsdale Train Depot to experience new life as Presbyterian church – from Hillsdale Daily Times; “Hillsdale Orthodox Presbyterian Church will hold its first worship service at the Old Train Depot at 44 Monroe Street Sunday.”

Anger Management Class Robbed At Spartanburg Church – from WSAV

And finally, to send you off into this coming week, how could I not conclude with this headline:

Cameroon: Christians Celebrate Presbyterian Church Day – from allAfrica

Presbyterian Headlines For The Two Weeks Ending Sept. 22, 2013


Well, the crazy part of my life continues, so here are two weeks worth of selected headlines related to Presbyterians around the world.

When we left Scotland last time there was great anticipation of the hearings before the Equal Opportunities Committee of the Scottish Parliament regarding the Marriage and Civil Unions Bill. While the Free Church of Scotland also testified, the media focused on statements by the Church of Scotland representative that due to potential legal challenges to their position of not preforming same-sex marriages they “may stop conducting marriages” all together.

Church of Scotland ‘may stop conducting marriages’ – from BBC News

Church of Scotland May Stop Performing Weddings to Avoid Gay Marriage Battles – from Charisma News

This led the Kirk to issue its own clarification

Marriage: Business as usual for the Church – Church of Scotland press release

Church of Scotland clarifies ‘there are no plans to stop weddings’ over same-sex marriage dispute – from PinkNews

And a major point of the legislation is the legal protection for conscience and religious viewpoints on the issue, and this also got some media coverage:

Ministers face legal warning over gay marriage – from The Scotsman

Scotland: Legal experts agree that a legal challenge against churches over equal marriage is unlikely – from PinkNews

Church of Scotland calls for ‘robust’ protection over gay marriage – From Christian Today

Moving to the other side of the world:

Drinking to the Gospel: Presbyterian Church in New Zealand Embraces Alcohol to Evangelize, Attract Members, Make Money – from Christian Post

Knox Church rebuild plan signed – from 3News NZ; “The landmark triple-gabled Knox Presbyterian Church
in Christchurch is to be rebuilt with a new lightweight cladding to
better withstand earthquakes. The brick and limestone building on the corner of
Victoria St and Bealey Ave was severely damaged in the February 2011
earthquake.”

Accuser backs church sex inquiry– from NZ Herald; in an ongoing church disciplinary case “The woman at the centre of a sexual misconduct complaint against a
Korean Presbyterian pastor is standing by her claims and is backing a
church investigation which found him guilty after a criminal court
cleared him of any wrongdoing.”

In the PC(USA):

Catholic, Presbyterian leaders oppose attack on Syria – from the Louisville Courier-Journal

Largest Presbyterian Church in Texas Filing Suit to Keep Property Should They Leave Denomination – from The Christian Post

And a couple of church fires, the first in the ARPC and second in the PC(USA):

Ballston church keeps the faith through two fires – from YNN

Firefighters extinguish massive flames at Walhalla Church – from Fox Carolina

And a few others:

Vanuatu church group here with helping hand – from Solomon Star; “A MEN’S fellowship group from [Sea Side Paama Presbyterian church in] Vanuatu is currently assisting Magdala
South Seas Evangelical Church (SSEC) in Honiara with the construction of
their new church building.”

Women’s group sends comfort to residential school survivors – from Kamloops The Daily News; “A group of compassionate Kamloops women
is hoping to lend comfort during emotional testimony at the Truth and
Reconciliation Commission in Vancouver this week. The St. Andrew’s
Presbyterian Church group members have been knitting prayer shawls that
will be brought to Vancouver and handed out to victims and families
impacted by the residential school system.”

Finally, a news article with a couple of familiar names from Scotland…

The Rev. John Chalmers, Principle Clerk of the Church of Scotland General Assembly, was inducted as a new Chaplain to the Queen and The Very Rev Ian Torrance, former Moderator of the Church of Scotland General Assembly and past President of Princeton Theological Seminary, was inducted as Dean of the Chapel Royal:

New Dean of the Chapel Royal and Queen’s Chaplain inducted – from Christian Today

There were a number of interesting articles in these two weeks that were interesting but here is what made the cut. I will try to keep it down to one week spans for a while.

Presbyterian News Headlines For The Two Weeks Ending August 18, 2013


I am going to take a bold step and cover the last two weeks so I get this listing caught up through the time I was off with a family event.

Here are a few of the interesting items that caught my eye since my last set of headlines:

First the controversy about the non-inclusion of a hymn in the new Presbyterian hymnal continues at only a slightly less active rate than a couple of weeks ago. Much of what I have seen covers the well-trod territory but two new twists have emerged. First, the discussion has spilled over to the Baptists:

Editorial Ignites Atonement Debate – from ABP News

And another article that takes the chair of the hymnal committee to task for shifting the focus of the discussion, whether for clarity or cover-up:

Committee Head Covers Up “In Christ Alone” Controversy – from First Things

And Keith Getty, the co-author, spoke with the Belfast Telegraph

My song of praise was dropped from a US hymn book …all because of one word

On to other news…

Two stories from New Zealand:

Presbyterian head seeks gay-wedding ban for unity’s sake – from New Zealand Herald as same-sex marriages become recognized in that country

Sad and excited Mayman heading to Sydney – from GayNZ, talking about one of the church’s progressive advocates who is moving to a new call with the Uniting Church in Australia

Three stories from The Presbyterian Chuch of Ghana:

Presbyterian Church to hold General Assembly – from Ghana Web, 16-22 August in Abetifi-Kwahu

Presbyterian Church commissions 41 new ministers – from Ghana Web

Presby church of Ghana inaugurates branch in Atlanta – from Ghana Web

From Scotland:

Kirk care staff caught up in zero-hours contracts row – from Herald Scotland; this is regarding Crossreach, the care arm of the Church of Scotland. In a statement the church said it was only for their relief staff who are employed on an as-needed basis to fill vacancies.

Kirk tells workers accept deal or face being sacked – from Herald Scotland; for Kirk staff in its main offices to take a pension cut. UPDATE: A response from the Convener of the Central Services Committee published saying the facts were wrong

Thomas Chalmers memorial unveiled in Anstruther – from The Courier; a garden in memory of the leading figure in the formation of the Free Church of Scotland

Cameron Highlanders veterans fall in line for special events – from Highland News; a new memorial area is dedicated to the former regiment at Old High Church, Inverness, which was the regimental church

From Canada:

Church apologizes to Kenora residential school survivors – from CBC; “The Presbyterian Church issued a specific apology on Wednesday to former students of a residential school in Kenora, Ont., where medical and nutritional experiments had taken place.”

Community ministries struggling in the US:

Chester ministry reluctantly curtails operations – from The Inquirer; a ministry of the Presbytery of Philadelphia

Presbyterian Community Center closing Aug. 30 over financial problems – from Louisville Courier-Journal

A major announcement over the weekend related to theological education:

Reformed Theological Seminary Appoints Dr. J. Ligon Duncan as New Chancellor – from Crossmap

And a Presbyterian church in Northern Ireland hosts a royal wedding for one of its own as a local girl who is working in a school in Nigeria marries a co-worker… who happens to be the Crown Prince of Lagos:

Royal wedding makes Loughgall girl a princess – from the Belfast News Letter

I am now done with the crazy part of my summer schedule and anticipate that blogging activity will become more regular. And I have a pretty good backlog of interesting stuff to comment on.

139th General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church in Canada

  We can now turn our attention to the first of the North American meetings for this year.

Beginning tomorrow, Friday 31 May, the 139th General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church in Canada will convene at the Newnham Campus of Seneca College in Toronto. The meeting will conclude on Monday 3 June. It has the theme “That all may be one” and is being jointly hosted by the Eastern Han-Ca and Oak Ridge Presbyteries. The former is a Korean language presbytery.

If you are interested in following along with this meeting here is information you might find useful. (And be aware that most of the official links are programmed to automatically download to your computer.)

  • First, if you want all the official info I mention below together, along with a whole lot more, there are the consolidated Reports (331 pages in length) and General Information documents (92 pages in length)
  • There is both an agenda for the meeting and a daily schedule available
  • The reports can be accessed from the reports section of the Assembly web page. There is also a nice 16 page document, the 2013 Report Summaries
  • UPDATE: YES! There is live streamingAt one time the Assembly meeting was live streamed but that did not happen last year and not yet finding mention of it I fear it will not be streamed this year. I will update here if I find out otherwise.
  • News about the Assembly will probably appear one the News and Events page
  • For the polity documents go to the Acts and Proceedings archive and the Book of Forms. There are some addition Resources available from the GAO web page. There is also the Practice and Procedure document for the General Assembly meeting.
  • If you are interested in the Assembly’s carbon footprint there is a special report on that
  • The PCC traditionally a great job of tweeting the Assembly at @PCConnect. For the meeting the hashtag is #ga139
  • I am not sure which of the Canadian Presbyterians I follow on Twitter will be at GA so I will update here when I find attendees that are helpful to follow.
  • Finally, the PCC also runs a Flickr photostream during GA

Looking at the business I found an overture (No. 1) that any polity wonk would love. There is a request to change the terminology “minister and session” to “minister and ruling elders on the session.” I don’t have to tell you that this is a great suggestion that fixes a two-fold problem: 1) the minister is a person and the session is a governing body (or whatever terminology you prefer for your courts of the church). 2) The minister is a member of the session with the ruling elders. Good catch.

For those who follow the form and function of the governing bodies, there is also an overture (No. 3) that asks that a special task force be established to restructure the duties of a synod so that those who chose to may go out of business.

And so, our best wishes and prayers to the whole Presbyterian Church in Canada and prayers for your 139th General Assembly this week.

General Assembly Season 2013


Ah, the First of May — the start of General Assembly Season 2013! 

Coffee? Check.
Alarm clocks set? Check.
Internet streaming? Check.

It looks like we are all ready to go so here is this year’s line-up:

  General Assembly
Presbyterian Church of Tasmania
  14 May 2013 (begins)

  General Assembly
Church of Scotland

18-24 May 2013
Edinburgh

  General Assembly
Free Church of Scotland Continuing
20-24 May, 2013
Edinburgh

  General Assembly
Free Church of Scotland
20-24 May 2013
Edinburgh

  General Assembly
Presbyterian Church of South Australia
  27 May 2013 (begins)
North Adelaide, S.A.

General Assembly
United Free Church of Scotland
 
29-31 May 2013
Perth

  139th General Assembly

Presbyterian Church in Canada
31 May – 3 June 2013
Toronto, Ontario

  General Assembly
Presbyterian Church in Ireland
 
3-7 June 2013
Londonderry

80th General Assembly

Orthodox Presbyterian Church
5-11 June 2013
St. Mary’s College
Moraga, California

Synod
Reformed Presbyterian Church of Ireland
10-12 June 2013
Dromore

209th Stated Meeting of the General Synod

Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church

11-13 June 2013
Bonclarken
Flat Rock, North Carolina

183rd General Assembly
Cumberland Presbyterian Church
17-21 June 2013
Murfreesboro, Tennessee

41st General Assembly

Presbyterian Church in America
17-21 June 2013
Greenville, South Carolina

33rd General Assembly

Evangelical Presbyterian Church
18-22 June 2013
Highlands Ranch, Colorado

  General Assembly
Presbyterian Church of Queensland

  24 June 2013 (begins)
Clayfield (Brisbane), QLD

  N.S.W. State Assembly
Presbyterian Church of Australia
in the State of New South Wales

 
1 July 2013 (begins)
Croydon, N.S.W.

  77th General Synod
Bible Presbyterian Church
1-6 August 2013
Grand Island, NY

  National Youth Assembly
Church of Scotland

16-19 August 2013
Dundee
(Technically not a governing
body, but still an Assembly I track)

  General Assembly
Presbyterian Church of Australia

9 September 2013 (begins)
Surry Hills (Sydney)
(note: this is a triennial Assembly)

  General Assembly
Presbyterian Church of Victoria
  October 2013

  General Assembly
Presbyterian Church in Western Australia
  25 October 2013
Bassendean, W.A.

A few branches have biennial assemblies so those with their next assembly in 2014 include the Cumberland Presbyterian Church in America, Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), and the Presbyterian Church of Aotearoa New Zealand.

These are the ones that I am tracking at the moment.  I will update as
appropriate.  If I have missed one, or have information wrong or incomplete, please provide the appropriate information and I will update the list.

And, to make the GA season complete here are two more items…

The first is the series of articles I wrote as an introduction to Presbyterian General Assemblies five years ago.  My GA 101 series consists of the following

GA101: Preface
GA101: Introduction – Why in the world would anybody want to do it this way?
GA101: Connectionalism – The Presbyterian Big Picture
GA101: The Cast of Characters – A score card to identify the players
GA101: The Moderator – All Things In Moderation
GA101: Where does the GA business come from? – Incoming!
GA101: Doing the business of GA — Decently and in Order

Yes, what started as a six part series expanded into seven
completed articles with two more unfinished ones in the queue.  (Maybe
this will give me some motivation to finish those up.)

And finally, on to the ridiculous.  Lest we take ourselves too seriously, a couple years ago I had a little fun with the General Assembly and in the post passed along the GA drinking game and GA Bingo. Please play both responsibly.

So, for all the GA Junkies out there I wish you the best of GA
seasons.  May you enjoy the next few months of watching us do things
decently and in order!

Moderator Designees Of The Free Church Of Scotland (Continuing) And The Presbyterian Church In Canada

Over the last couple of weeks we have news of two pastors from North America becoming the Moderator Designees for the Free Church of Scotland (Continuing) and the Presbyterian Church in Canada. (Yes, you read that right.)

Free Church of Scotland (Continuing)

First, in what must be a highly unique, if not unprecedented, action in the history of Scottish Presbyterians the Free Church of Scotland (Continuing) has named the pastor from the Free Church in Atlanta, Georgia, their Moderator Designee for the 2013 General Assembly. The Rev. Warren Ewing Gardner was born in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, did his undergraduate work at Geneva College and his theological training at Westminster Theological Seminary (Philadelphia) and Pittsburgh Theological Seminary. Based on the information in the Stornoway Gazette (I don’t see a press release on the denomination’s web site yet) it appears he was ordained by the PCUS in 1972 in Atlanta and he served three churches in that area.  He transferred to the Presbyterian Church in America in 1981 and served as a church planter for them in Georgia, for 23 years shepherding the congregation he founded there.  In 2003 he associated with the Free Church of Scotland (Continuing) and again became a church planter founding his current congregation.  The denomination page includes his study at Columbia Theological Seminary so he likely began work on a Doctor of Ministry there (although that is just an educated guess on my part). He and his wife Valerie have five adult children and thirteen grandchildren.

It is worth noting that this might represent a certain Presbyterian reciprocity with Scotland as Princeton University and Princeton Theological Seminary have been know to get the likes of John Witherspoon and Iain Torrance from Scotland to serve as presidents of those institutions.

Presbyterian Church in Canada
The selection of the Rev. Dr. David Sutherland is also a bit unique but in a different way. Rev. Sutherland was the only nominee for the office when nominations were submitted last fall as no other candidate received the multiple presbytery nominations required to appear on the ballot. While not unheard of, this is an unusual occurrence. UPDATE: I inquired about this to the General Assembly Office and the response was that no one remembered this happening before.

With the nomination situation as it was the Rev. Sutherland was know to be the only candidate for Moderator last fall, and a detailed press release was issued by the PCC at that time. But being Presbyterians and being required to do things decently and in order and according to the Book of Forms, the position became official Tuesday as The Committee to Advise the Moderator met at the appointed time and place to make the nomination final.

Rev. Sutherland has been the pastor of St. Andrew’s Presbyterian Church in St. John’s, Newfoundland for almost 14 years and he has served in other churches in the Atlantic Provinces through his career. (And check out the picture of the church on Panoramio to get a better feel for the setting.)  In his career he has served in positions and on committees at all levels of the church including as a presbytery moderator, presbytery clerk, synod moderator and he now serves as the synod clerk. He has a significant number of initials after his name (B.Comm., M.Div., M.Th., D.Min.) but all the bio tells us is that he studied at Knox College. He and his wife Irma have two adult children and four grandchildren. Rev. Sutherland’s son is a pastor at the Bass River Pastoral Charge in New Brunswick.

He will be formally elected and installed as Moderator of the 139th General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church in Canada when it convenes on May 31 in Toronto.

So our congratulations to both Rev. Gardner and Rev. Sutherland as they prepare for this calling and prayers and best wishes to them for their responsibilities moderating the Assembly and for their whole moderatorial year. May God continue to bless your ministries.

138th General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church in Canada

  Well, the Assemblies and Synods on the other side of the pond are not quite finished yet, but this week we can turn our attention to the first of the North American meetings.

Beginning today, 3 June, the 138th General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church in Canada will convene at Durham College and the University of Ontario Institute of Technology in Oshawa, Ontario. The meeting will conclude on Thursday. If you are interested in following along with this meeting here is information you might find useful

One interesting item to pay attention to is the special question session that was held this afternoon called Q&A@GA. This event is designed to help commissioners focus on particular questions they have about specific items of business. They describe the event like this: “In a marketplace setting, commissioners will be invited to meet
committee conveners and staff to seek clarification and raise questions
or concerns they may have about the reports and recommendations to
General Assembly.”

Let me conclude with the note that the sharp-eyed may notice that Colin moved down down into the category of “other observers” on Twitter this year from his previous position in the Official category. Colin recently stepped down as the Associate Secretary for Communications.  There is a Minute of Appreciation for him in the Life and Mission Agency Supplementary Report. I want to add my own word of thanks. I have deeply appreciated Colin’s ministry in that position. When I have had a question about the nuances of PCC polity he has always quickly responded to my inquiries (exempli gratia). He has also been proactive about promptly alerting me to news items I would be interested in. Colin – THANK YOU VERY MUCH for all you have done for the church. And to the PCC – I really hope you do appreciate him for his ministry and good luck finding a replacement equal to him.

And with that – best wishes to the whole Presbyterian Church in Canada and prayers for your 138th General Assembly this week.

General Assembly Season 2012

GA Junkies ready? It is the start of General Assembly Season 2012!  Get your coffee ready, alarm clocks set and your internet streaming tuned up. Here is what I am looking forward to… (based on best available information – I will update as I get full details)

General Assembly
Free Church of Scotland (Continuing)
May 2012
EdinburghGeneral Assembly
Church of Scotland
19-25 May 2012
Edinburgh

General Assembly
Free Church of Scotland
21-25 May 2012*
Edinburgh

General Assembly
Presbyterian Church in Ireland
28-31 May 2012
Belfast

138th General Assembly
Presbyterian Church in Canada
3-7 June 2012
Oshawa, Ontario

138th General Assembly
Cumberland Presbyterian Church in America
4-7 June 2012
Huntsville, Alabama

208th Stated Meeting of the General Synod
Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church
5-7 June 2012
Flat Rock, North Carolina

General Assembly
United Free Church of Scotland
6-8 June 2012
Perth

79th General Assembly
Orthodox Presbyterian Church
6-12 June 2012
Wheaton College, Wheaton, Illinois

182nd General Assembly
Cumberland Presbyterian Church
17-22 June 2012
Florence, Alabama

40th General Assembly
Presbyterian Church in America
19-22 June 2012
Louisville, Kentucky

181st General Synod
Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America
(researching – will update)

32nd General Assembly
Evangelical Presbyterian Church
20-23 June 2012
Baton Rouge, Louisiana

220th General Assembly
Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)
30 June – 7 July 2012
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

76th General Synod
Bible Presbyterian Church
9-14 August 2012
Lakeland, Florida

General Assembly 2012
Presbyterian Church of Aotearoa New Zealand
4-7 October 2012
Rotorua

These are the ones that I am tracking at the moment.  I will update as
appropriate. [* These entries have been updated since the original post.]  If I have missed one, or have information wrong or incomplete, please provide the appropriate information and I will update the list.

And, to make the GA season complete here are two more items…

The first is the series of articles I wrote as an introduction to Presbyterian General Assemblies four years ago.  My GA 101 series consists of the following

GA101: Preface
GA101: Introduction – Why in the world would anybody want to do it this way?
GA101: Connectionalism – The Presbyterian Big Picture
GA101: The Cast of Characters – A score card to identify the players
GA101: The Moderator – All Things In Moderation
GA101: Where does the GA business come from? – Incoming!
GA101: Doing the business of GA — Decently and in Order

Yes, what started as a six part series expanded into seven
completed articles with two more unfinished ones in the queue.  (Maybe
this will give me some motivation to finish those up.)

And finally, on to the ridiculous.  Lest we take ourselves too seriously, a couple years ago I had a little fun with the General Assembly and in the post passed along the GA drinking game and GA Bingo. Please play both responsibly.

So, for all the GA Junkies out there I wish you the best of GA
seasons.  May you enjoy the next three months of watching us do things
decently and in order!

Presbyterian Church In Canada Announces Nominee For Moderator of the 138th General Assembly


This morning the Presbyterian Church in Canada announced the results of the voting for the nominee for the Moderator of the 138th General Assembly (2012). The wider church has chosen The Rev. Dr. John A. Vissers (B.A., M.Div., Th.M., Th.D.) as their Moderator for the upcoming assembly and the following year.

For over twelve years Mr. Vissers has served as Principal of The Presbyterian College, Montreal
and Adjunct Professor of Christian Theology at McGill University. He was ordained to the ministry in 1981 and served in churches in British Columbia and Ontario as well as an academic position at Tyndale Seminary. His academic degrees are from, in the order listed after his name above, University of Toronto, Knox College (Toronto), Princeton Theological Seminary and Toronto School of Theology. He has given significant service on the presbytery level, including having served as Moderator of the Presbytery of Montreal. At the national level he has served on the Committee on History, including as convener, as well as the Committee on Theological Education and currently on the Committee on Doctrine. He and his wife, Lynn McEwen have three children all currently persuing college studies – a son working on an M.Div. at Princeton Theological Seminary and another studying engineering at John Abbot College as well as a daughter studying Occupational Therapy at McGill. (Appreciate the OT since that field is a “family favorite” around my house.)

It seems a bit awkward writing some of the text above since it was just announced late last week by Knox College, Toronto, that Mr. Vissers would be taking a new position as their Director of Academic Programs (Knox announcement, PCC news release, Presbyterian College news release)

(As long as we have hit two of the three theological colleges of the PCC in one shot, it is worth pointing out that their third institution is St. Andrew’s Hall in Vancouver, B.C.)

And so, just as one of the other nominees for Moderator, the Rev. John Borthwick, has congratulated the Rev. Vissers on his blog, we also extend our congratulations to the Rev. Vissers on both of the recent developments in his life and assure him of our prayers for what will certainly be a very busy year.  (And for the record, we presume that the other candidates for Moderator also extend their congratulations and well wishes but Mr. Borthwick is the only one regularly blogging the journey.)

Haven’t I Seen That Somewhere Before?

leaf_logos

Last month when the Fellowship of Presbyterians was rolling out the new Evangelical Covenant Order of Presbyterians they debuted and explained the new logo and the preferred acronym (that would be ECO not ECOPs).

At the time someone tweeted or blogged that the logo reminded him or her of X – and I have been looking back and trying to figure out who I saw say that both to give them credit as well as to be sure what X is. My failing memory tells me that they suggested the logo for Presbyterians for Earth Care shown above.

Well, after they mentioned that I started seeing similarities to other logos.  I have included two examples above, one from the Friends of Calvin Crest and the other for a non-denominational church in our area.

Now to be clear, the Calvin Crest logo is not a deciduous leaf but a pine needle cluster or maybe a pine cone. But the look and feel is sure similar.

The presbygeeks out there know that this variation on a plant theme is nothing new for Presbyterians…

burning_bush_logos

 

Yes, each of these global Presbyterian seals rocks the burning bush theme adopted by Presbyterians long ago.  (Clockwise from upper left – old Church of Scotland seal, current Church of Scotland logo, Free Church of Scotland, United Free Church of Scotland, old Presbyterian Church in Ireland, current Presbyterian Church in Ireland, Free Presbyterian Church of Ulster, Presbyterian Church of Aotearoa New Zealand, Malaysian Presbyterian Church, Presbyterian Church in Canada, and Presbyterian Church of Taiwan)

[Note: Please see the comment by Alec below with a correction and some fascinating history of the symbols.]

So what got American Presbyterians sidetracked?  There are a couple of exceptions

other logos

 

 

 

… and that BPC logo does have the burning bush. But for the most part American Presbyterians, and a couple more I threw in, tend to use the cross as their dominant theme.

cross logos
(Tempting to leave this as an identification challenge but here are the logos: Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church, Cumberland Presbyterian Church, Evangelical Presbyterian Church, old United Presbyterian Church in the United States of America, Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), Presbyterian Church of Australia, and the Uniting Presbyterian Church of Southern Africa.) You can spot the burning bush or flame symbolism there in some of these, but the central motif has become the cross.

Where logo design goes from here will be interesting to see.  If early American Presbyterians had a logo they did not use it much. I don’t know if it was simply because they did not feel a need to have a brand identity or maybe it was not worth the extra cost to print it on their documents, or maybe they though it came too close to violating the Second Commandment. Maybe some research on that sometime.

But these days it seems necessary to have a logo for brand identity, and if it is simple and can be reduced to a small size for your online avatar all the better. ECO clearly thought that having a unique (sort-of) logo was a worth while endeavor to put early effort into.

We will see where it takes them.